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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:10:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:
As it stands currently, you'll get the bonus on large towers but nothing on medium/small due to :math:. Still thinking about that one though
The math isn't THAT hard. You do some formulae, we'll stick it in our spreadsheets. Same with faction. And I agree with others wanting faction POS BPCs added back to the drop tables/LP stores. Hell, come up with CONCORD POS so that Incursion LP has some value again.
Someone posted earlier about trying to get ammo into POS guns as they run out. One word: Lasers. |
Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:22:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Approximate POS fuel costs per 30 days right now:
Amarr: 136 / 213 / 366
Caldari: 140 / 220 / 381
Gallente: 176 / 291 / 523
Minmatar: 139 / 217 / 375
Estimated costs after the fuel pellets get introduced:
Amarr: 87 / 171 / 341
Caldari: 90 / 178 / 354
Gallente: 122 / 241 / 480
Minmatar: 89 / 175 / 348 Question: Do these estimates factor in sov costs?
And one more thing: Instead of the "half-and-half" baloney, why not just give all existing POS a month's free fuel and have done with it? None of this "HAY! LET'S INCLUDE A NEEDLESSLY STUPID TRANSITIONAL PERIOD THAT MAKES EVERY CORPS LOGISTICS TEAM RUN AROUND LIKE HAMSTERS ON SPEED FOR A WEEK!"
For ONCE, can you stop trying fancy crap and just swap over with a pile of free stuff to make the change easy?
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:41:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Just to throw my support behind the ideas, as I had them too (they're that obvious):
Large = 400 blocks / hour
Medium = 200 blocks / hour
Small = 100 blocks / hour
Faction towers get a larger fuel bay AND a consumption reduction. SOV holders also get a consumption reduction.
BPO produces 400 blocks per run, and takes 5 minutes per run like all ammo BPO.
Click-drag-drop. Done. Woo cares about small block numbers!
It isn't rocket surgery! And instead of worrying over PERCENTAGES, just make the changes based on AMOUNTS.
i.e.
5 less blocks per hour per level of sov. (And yes, that's how much I think it should be.)
5 less blocks per hour for a faction tower.
That turns the whole thing into an algebra problem that someone in middle school should be able to solve.
You guys are unable to see the forest for the trees.
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:53:00 -
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Dalton Vanadis wrote: This probably was the simplest solution for the dev team to implement, especially given how many other projects are going on and their stated planned full overhaul of the POS system. The downfall is that yeah, corps run around like mad and the market goes ballistic for a month, but that happens every expansion; get over it.
You're kidding, right? You know nothing of database and data table management, right? "Global search and replace" never made it to your computer school at kindergarten, right?
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:00:00 -
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Labrena wrote:You practically have to have a POS just to build anything these days in any quantity. Yeah, you'd think CCP wanted us to be more reliant on one another instead of having it spoon fed to us by NPC corps.
Oh wai...
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:28:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:Dalton Vanadis wrote:I would like to say that one idea that is probably easy to implement and will make all of your players who manage towers very very very happy with you is to just plop a full load of these pellets into the fuel bay on patch day, just erase their old fuel, put in 29 days of fuel blocks and call it a day. - Anchor Tower - Put in a bit of fuel - Convert to blocks for free - Tear down tower - Sell fuel Gee, a one-time bonus as opposed to yet another conversion nightmare? Yeah, I think we'll all survive that.
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:44:00 -
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Nocturrne Primitive wrote:No! No! NOO!
So, not only do I have to flog myself to gather all of the fuel, but I also have to package it into friggin blocks....
How is this supposed to make our lives easier? No no no no no.
You buy the blocks INSTEAD of the POS fuels as before. Now you're getting one item instead of several. It reduces POS fueling to running a car.
Now if you WANT to build your own refinery to make gas, that's your choice. But expect the basic effort to go DOWN, not up.
(Someone start a corp and call it BP - British POSfuel)
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:59:00 -
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Nocturrne Primitive wrote:Buy where? There is no market or even a station near most of our POSs. In 0.0 we must be self sufficient. At the moment, we harvest all of our POS fuels in system or nearby. Having to travel long distances and make or buy blocks is an epic nightmare. Well, then you're at the point where you CAN build your own refinery. A n extra manufacturing array or two on one POS and you're set. All you'll need are the blueprints.
Then YOU can set yourself up as British POSfuels.  |
Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 18:25:00 -
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Hirana Yoshida wrote:PELLETS!
IT IS CALLED FUEL PELLETS (as per initial idea and previous discussions). YAH! 50m3 PELLETS!
{I know, you're being silly.}
Imagine the size of rabbit you'd have to have to make a pellet that big. 
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